Parents plead with school board over teachers of autistic programs
Liberty Veedon  |  June 10, 2009  |   19 Comment(s)
 

The Sarasota County School District’s teacher lay-off policy drew sharp rebukes last week from parents of autistic children at Laurel Nokomis School in Nokomis.

As a result of comments made during the June 2 school board meeting, the board members agreed to study a situation at the school during their August work session.

The district is laying off 120 teachers this year, giving top retention priority to those with seniority and relevant certification as student enrollment and district funds have shrunk. The administration has an understanding with the Sarasota Classified/Teachers Association (SCTA) regarding how the layoffs are being handled.

But the district’s actions have directly impacted the three-year-old autism cluster site at Laurel Nokomis, the only school in the county serving middle school-level autistic children. Fruitville Elementary is the only other school in the county running a similar program; it serves elementary students.

Three of the four autism spectrum disorder teachers at Laurel Nokomis are losing their jobs to senior teachers with ESE (Exceptional Student Education) certification, though these teachers have no experience in teaching autistic children, parents have said.

The only two teachers in the county who already have the endorsements for teaching autistic children made mandatory by 2011 by the Florida Department of Education are also losing their positions. One is being moved out of the autism program; the other is losing her job because she is a junior teacher.

The Laurel Nokomis program has had six teachers in three years, disrupting the lives of the students who specifically need structure and consistency to learn, parents said. The students have made dramatic improvements with the appointment of teacher Jennifer Latta to the program in February, parents told the school board.

"In six weeks she taught my son to read," said Richard Raliowski. His son Rischad is a sixth-grader.

Latta is one of the teachers losing her job.

"Please do not destabilize the lives of our children when some stability has been established at the school. Waive the seniority rule for autism teachers," pleaded David Harvey, whose son also is a sixth-grader in the program.

"This would mean only protecting 20 teachers out of the 2,000 the district employs," Raliowski said.

Tracy Vervane, mother of Emma and Zachary Vervane, said that though her family lives just a couple of miles from Fruitville Elementary on Honore Avenue, a student rezoning has forced them to go to Laurel Nokomis.

"We were told it was best to take our children from Fruitville to Laurel Nokomis," Vervane pointed out. Yet, because of the constant changeover in teachers, she said, Emma, "who was a Student of the Month at Fruitville, has regressed to hurting her peers."

Vervane’s husband, Derek, told the Pelican Press the district is hurting his children instead of helping them.

Superintendent Lori White responded to the parents that the teacher displacement would be unique to the coming school year and that the district would have teachers with autism endorsement in schools in 2010, a year ahead of the DOE requirement.

The administration, White added, would provide teachers financial support to get the new endorsement. "That way we will have a pool of trained teachers who can teach autistic children."

White also pointed out that the picture at Laurel Nokomis for the 2009-2010 school year will become clear only in August, when the school reopens. With vacancies created by teachers retiring or moving away, the surplus staff may be accommodated, she said.

School board Vice Chair Shirley Brown pointed out to the parents that their children would be getting some very senior teachers "who have chosen to be there. Give them some leeway."

However, board member Frank Kovach said he was "angry and disappointed" by the "bumping system." Calling it "poorly designed," he said running a school system on seniority is wrong. "This administration should have the courage to design it in a different way."

Board member Carol Todd agreed with him. As a volunteer at Fruitville Elementary, she said she had seen autistic children make huge gains when they had the same teacher over time.

"It is not in the best interest of these children to have six teachers in three years," she said. "We have to make sure that we are doing the best for our children."

Board member Kathy Kleinlein added, "This is a field where bumping should not be happening."

Chair Caroline Zucker said she had asked White if the board could create a protected class of teachers. "She had asked me, ‘Where do we begin?’" Zucker said.

Pointing out that hiring and firing are the superintendent’s prerogatives, Zucker told the parents the board has no control over the situation.

Kovach pointed out the board’s business is to protect the interests of the students. "We need to keep our best teachers regardless of seniority."

Todd reminded her colleagues that anything they wanted to do "was doable. This is something the board needs to discern."

Ultimately, the board agreed to the detailed discussion in August.

That has not assuaged the parents, however, nor are they convinced that the teachers who have opted to be in classes for autistic students are doing that because they want to.

"They just want to save their jobs, not teach our children," said Raliowski. "If they wanted to teach autistic students, why didn’t they do it two years ago?"

Parents also expressed skepticism about the ESE certification in regard to teaching autistic students.

"ESE is a certification you get online," Derek Vervane said. "It does not give any practical experience about dealing with autism. ... Now it is going to be another year of inconsistency. I am losing the support I should be getting from school.

"If they are not doing something about it right now, I am suing them," he said.

SCTA Executive Director Barry Dubin was unavailable for comment.

 
 

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T Fitzgerald
June 11th 2009 - 2:52PM
The School board and the county needs to evaluate its contract. It is the Unions job to protect its employees it is our school systems job to protect our children and make choices that benefit them. Not only do we need to Keep new young teachers that have studied additional years for these certifications but we need their fresh ideas and energy. Some our ESE teachers and aides are tired and do not put the effort required to teach in these challenging positions. A better way is needed to see that we have the best teachers doing the best jobs for our community.
 
Phil
June 11th 2009 - 2:57PM
Something is very wrong with a school district when a union can dictate teacher placement. Does the school district serve the students or the union leaders? This is NOT in the best interest of these students. As a taxpayer in Sarasota, I ask the School Board, District zzz Union to come together for the sake of the students and FIX THIS MESS!
 
Heather
June 11th 2009 - 4:33PM
I have a daughter who attends Fruitville Elementary and is autistic and I was at this meeting. I hope that the school board and Lori White (Superintendent) will put our children before and above this piece of paper (The union contract) I wholeheartedly agreed with everything Mr. Kovach stated. And what about FAPE? FAPE stands for Free and Appropriate Public Education. It means, simply, that all school-aged children (Kindergarten through age 21) must receive a free public education that meets their needs. Putting teachers with little to no “hands on” autism experience in a classroom with autistic children is not providing them with an education that meets their needs, I do not care that they have the “ESE Certification” ($25 online course that requires no "Hands On" training)… My only concern is my child, period. If the School Board and Lori White say that student achievement is their number one priority, they should make it their number one priority. We (the parents of autistic children in this county) do not pay taxes for them to be an employment agency... We trust them with our most precious children who have no voice.
 
Anonymous
June 11th 2009 - 5:27PM
It is a sad day for our children when the Trachers Union dictates who gets to teach the ESE children. Of course not the Most qualified, but the most senior. We ARE the tax paying citizens of this county and it is our dollars that pay for education.I have found the School Board to be "Lame ducks" in almost any situation since they cannot "do" anything but be our sounding board. Let's call the Department of Education and our Govenor to let him know how we feel about un-qualified teachers getting priority to teach our "special" children just because they have been teaching longer. Diana O'Neill taught special education students for 10 years and we all know how that turned out. And was only "caught" over the last year of her teaching ESE students. How about cameras IN the classrooms so we can see our children and the manner in which they are being taught? I know the Teachers Union again dictates that an employee of the Sarasota County School District cannot be recorded supposedly "doing his/her job", but again, who pays taxes IN the county for education? The Union or us? Or just blur the face of the county employee and we all can be happy. There are plenty of cameras at the School Board Landings Buildings. Lots of locked doors too. Something to hide, perhaps? Makes no sense to lock out and blur out the people public county money compensates. Or is it just me?
 
A.B.
June 11th 2009 - 8:52PM
C'mon, give these kids a break. Isn't it hard enough for them already? They've had 6 teachers in 3 years! That's not right for a regular education student and definitely not right for these children!
 
M.B.
June 11th 2009 - 8:59PM
This is absolutely ridiculous. Shouldn't teacher placement take students into consideration SOMEWHERE? It seems the District and Union are more focused on making the teachers happy rather than taking care of the students in their care.
 
Parent
June 11th 2009 - 9:37PM
While being the parent of a child with "special needs," there has been a problem with the Sarasota County School District for quite a number of years. I feel that all they worry about is getting the money for having these "special" children, but aren't concerned for the welfare of the children. It's a sad situation. These children need loyal teachers that care about these kids education. They are not just a body for a head count. Please reconsider the decision to base who stays are seniority. The situation that has happened with Diana O'Neill has proven that seniority does not mean a more qualified teacher and a teacher that cares for these children.
 
Concerned too
June 12th 2009 - 4:26AM
Zucker...are you kidding us? What is this,"the board has no control"? The policy is the exclusive province of the board.You need a FSBA refresher Zucker!Frank, Kathy, zzz Carol get it and that is 3/5 and thus the ball game.3/5 can do anything and all that has to be done is direst staff to leave the autism program faculty alone.
 
cathy
June 12th 2009 - 12:40PM
This is just plain wrong. Teacher placement should be based on student needs. The school board needs to start listening to parents.
 
Maria
June 12th 2009 - 2:38PM
Parents know best.............this is terrible for these children.
 
A B.
June 12th 2009 - 5:32PM
I thought that the School Board is supposed to look out for the best interests of the students in the district, not the teachers. Please reconsider and let the most talented and motivated teachers teach our "special needs" children. This should not be based on seniority but the most qualified to teach our children.
 
Sarah
June 12th 2009 - 5:39PM
Of course the teachers union will look out for what's best for their teachers not the children. Look what they did for Diana O'Neill- She gets arbitration which they will drag out for the next year so the ABUSIVE TEACHER O'NEILL CAN GET HER 20 YEAR PENSION!!!!! At OUR TAX EXPENSE!!!
 
parent
June 12th 2009 - 6:30PM
I believe the school board needs to remember the students and their best interest. As a parent of two children with "special needs", I can agree that children need consistency and excel the best with stability. Changing teachers, therapists etc. really hinders the children's ability to progress. Please reconsider how teachers are placed.
 
Doctor Doctor
June 12th 2009 - 7:56PM
Think about this: Would you think it's ok for a general surgeon to operate on your heart or would you insist on a specialist? Maybe the general surgeon could do the job, maybe not. What if the heart surgeon was standing right there ready to do the job but the Board zzz the Director of the Hospital said, "No, sorry the general surgeon has seniority zzz if he/she wants the job, it's theirs. I understand your concern but,sorry, those are the rules....... Incredible, isn't it?
 
parent
June 13th 2009 - 12:05PM
In response to Doctor Doctor, you speak the whole truth and correct truth.We certainly would not want an inexperienced general surgeon doing heart surgery on us but why must we have these inexperienced teachers with seniority teach our "special needs" children? Come on Board members- Do your job! Dr. Zucker, you do dissappoint me as do you Ms. Brown. Looking out for the Union and the teachers over the students. When is the next election?
 
grandparent
June 13th 2009 - 9:52PM
If this nonsense of seniority over ability should actually come to pass I suggest a class action lawsuit against the school district in general and each person who so decided in particular for child abuse and neglect. How dare anyone make a decision to not take proper care of the most vulnerable. Autism requres AUTISM teachers , nothing less.Sounds to me like someone is getting a kickback and that ought to be investgated.For sure ethics is completely missing here.I would be more than happy to join any protest march the parents might feel compelled to organize.
 
CW
June 15th 2009 - 3:39PM
It is time that the school board wake up and do what is right for our children. Listen to the concerns spoken by the parents of these children affected. Just because a teacher has seniority does not mean they should be entitled to teach anything just to save their job. Autistic or not, these children deserve to be taught in an environment suitable to their learning need by a teacher who understands and is trained how best to teach them.
 
North Port, Fl
June 17th 2009 - 9:15PM
Parent Involvement, Parent Involvement! We have to become more involved and not just trust or believe that the school is the know all and be all! I go into schools with parents and have to FIGHT to obtain services for their children with special needs. You wouldn't believe the# of ESE Liasons that conviently leave out services these children need, qualify for and could greatly benefit from. A large # of children need and qualify for one on one classroom Aides but trying to get this service that is "suppose to be available" is like pulling teeth.I have witnessed school staff wanting zzz needing to add services but have been afraid to because of the recourse from the district. I have seen our ESE students riding the school bus for over an hour and a half because our district is trying to save a buck! They recieve $ for these children but its funny how their services are always the first to be cut or suffer! All while buying "Active Boards" that don't work properly half the time. My son was finally diagnosed with a form of Autism a little over one year ago. He started the ESE Pre-K program at age 3. My son at this point had already had years of therapy. When the final diagnosis came he was just about to finish his last year of prek going to K. Despite a complete diagnosis from various specialistzzz neurologist the ESE staff refused to believe he had Autism.(Non of them were doctors or Really knew Autism just had Maybe a class or seminar on one type of Autism) Because he had come so far, they had not known him in the previous pre-k years and infant stages. My son was non verbal, severe behavior, social emotionsl needs were so high he was suspended from school on an ongoing basis because the Adminstrators refused to implement stragities and techniques used for children with ASD, they told me they just don't deal with behavior problems and the children that they had in their school with these type problems were no longer there! I took this as a direct threat!! While the teacher was AWESOME!!! I as a parent had to go in Blazn ! My son with years of thearpy and a VERY involved parent demanding that his FULL rights under IDEA(the law) were given, is now a model student and not only succeeds in "mainstream" he has surpassed the other children his age! His speech is that of an adult. A very different outcome than where we were heading. I gave my story to say this, Give these kids what they need to succeed. Teachers that understand FULLY and that are trained especially for Autism. Our children CAN succeed when given the proper tools!!
 
Rapkin,v
September 2nd 2009 - 8:47PM
I live in North Port, My daughter has aspergers and attends hcms and we just found out her one to one aide who is really great with her, was just surplused to go to a school in north county. The aide doesn't want to leave her either and my focus is " What about my child" too,The school board needs to relize we the parents know whats best for our specialkids.The aide has been with my daughter from 7th grade and now 2 weeks into school of 8th grade. She's a big part of our lives, knows what sets her off, how to calm her down, and helps her with her verbal issues,she has delt with her severe behavior, social zzz emotional needs were when they are so high. My daughter was suspended from school on an ongoing basis because the Adminstrators refused to implement stragities and teach her the techniques used for children with ASD, they told me they just don't deal with behavior problems and the children that they had in their school with these type problems were no longer tollerated so then what send them home to learn time and time again "If I behave this way I can just go home" My answer to these adminatrative people is do your job that my over paid taxes are paying you to do and help my child or remove the problem child and provide a private teacher from your salery. My daughter's aide should not be moved because someone else at the school wants to cry about thier job issues. My child is what matters to me and I agree with the father at the beginning of the article, that I will sue the school and board members to make my point and share with those wanting to get answers.
 
 
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